Episode 40 – The Berenstain Bears and Too Much Junk Food!

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Hey, gang. Let’s stuff our faces! With knowledge! About the Berenstain Bears and their gross obsession with junk food! It’s gross! I’m joined this week by the amazing Elana!

Episode 39 – The Berenstain Bears Meet Santa Bear!

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I’m all alone and kind of lose it in this one? So, join me, dear listeners, as I delve into the horrors of greed. Also, I promise to never say “Giggly Goo” ever again.

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Episode 36 – The Berenstain Bears and the Big Election!

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POLITICS! That’s what we’re all about this week. POLITICS! How do they work? Why? Where? Tax! Papa don’t know. And Papa . . . don’t care.

All this and no more!

Episode 35 – The Berenstain Bears and Too Much TV!

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Boy am I lucky! Mr. Andrew Schwartz of the “Talkin’ ‘Bout Turtle: Your One Stop Shoppe for Entourage Schlopp” podcast has joined me to discuss the notion of perhaps watching too much television. Is this even possible? What was television like when I was a kid? What’s a “cube puzzle?” Paula Poundstone?

We discuss all these things and more!

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Episode 34 – The Berenstain Bears Shoot the Rapids!

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Okay, I learned my lesson last time. I’m only going to try to tackle one mini storybook. this week. 1984’s “The Berenstain Bears Shoot the Rapids.” Sounds like a treat.

Mike Berenstain Responds! – 1

Hey, guys! In prepping for Episode 32 – the one where I unwisely tried to cover FOUR mini story books in one go – I had a few questions about the art in the books. So, I wrote to The Berenstains with the following question:

I’ll be covering four books from 1983 – the mini-storybooks – and I notice that the interior art seems . . . different from the rest of the books from the same era. The line work has a different texture, the bear’s themselves seem slightly off-model. Their eyes and smiles in particular. Even their poses seem slightly uncharacteristic. Did Stan and Jan use a different process for these books? Is there any way of knowing?

This is the fantastic response from Mike Berenstain:

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Always happy to answer any questions.

There are two reasons the art in the mini books looks different.

First, and most important, these books were done as a series in parallel with all the other books (primarily the First Time Books) that Stan and Jan were doing in the early ’80s and it was not possible, from this point on, for them to do all the art themselves for all Berenstain Bears books. The mini books were the first ones (a least that I can recall) on which a freelance artist was employed. The usual process was that Stan and Jan did the rough layouts, the freelancer did finished sketches, Stan and Jan then corrected all the sketches on overlays and the freelancer did the finished ink line and color. By the way, at this time Stan and Jan almost always worked in pen and ink. Earlier, they had used brush on some books where a bolder line was needed–for instance, some of the Bright and Early books like Bears in the Night. The freelancer used for these mini books had a  background as a comic strip inker. This technique almost always uses ink brush line. So that was what he used for these mini books, thus giving the line a different quality. Also, his background in comic strip art inflected his execution of the characters giving them the slightly exaggerated look you notice.

Second, color reproduction in mass market children’s books went through an evolution from the 1960s to the 1990s. Until the early 1970s, all the Berenstain Bears books were done in full pre-separation. That is, black line was created first, this line drawing was then printed in non-photo blue on four sheets of illustration board and the “color” was then created in percentages of Indian ink gray wash on each of these four sheets–one for yellow, one for blue, one for red and one for gray tone. The color percentages were calculated using a chart which matched tones of gray to tones of yellow, red and blue. All of these five elements were then put together in the printing process to create full color with black line. Thus there is no “original” full color art for any of the Berenstain Bears books created before about 1973–each original consists of five separate pieces of art all in shades of black and gray. This laborious and difficult process was done to save money. Printing full color art in those days was expensive since it involved the labor of a team of photographers, engravers and printers. In order to achieve the low price points needed to market children’s books in mass distribution, the pre-separation system was developed as a way to lower printing costs. In the early ’70s, more efficient printing techniques were developed which permitted, first, a simplification of the process, then, it’s elimination. There was a transitional period where the black line was still done separately, then printed on a single sheet of illustration board in non-photo blue and full color was painted on this board. So, now, there were only two pieces of original art–the black line sheet and the full color sheet. The Berenstain Bears’ Nursery Tales was the first using this technique, followed by Science Fair, The New Baby and Go to School. It continued to be used for a time for cover art into the late ’80s since it gave a very bright clean reproduction. But it gave way to full color reproduction for most interior art by about 1980 and for all the art by about 1988. The last work I did in this process was the cover for After the Dinosaurs. The mini books, however–I assume because of their very low price point–were done entirely in this mixed black line/full color separation process giving them a distinctive look.

Mike Berenstain

Thank you Mike Berenstain and The Berenstains for your continued support of my little endeavor here.

Reading 1 – The Berenstain Bears and The Truth

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What’s all this then?! It’s a reading! This week we’re breaking format and listening to a book! So, kick back, relax and enjoy my melifluous tones!

We’ll be back next week with an episode as we barrel toward Christmas! There’s a lot coming up!

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The Berenstain Bears Meet Bigpaw – Follow Up!

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Here’s Mike Berenstain’s response to my inquiry about why The Berenstain Bears’ Christmas Tree was the only one of the specials to receive a book adaptation immediately following the initial airing.

When The Berenstain Bears’ Christmas Tree first aired on NBC in December 1979, my parents were still doing their It’s All in the Family cartoon series for Good Housekeeping. They created an illustrated adaptation of the TV show which was published in the December ’79 edition of the magazine to coincide with the broadcast. I believe this condensed adaptation formed the basis for and facilitated the publication of the full book version with Random House for Christmas the following year. The later NBC specials were not the subject of preliminary magazine adaptations. I assume this was due to the fact that my parents’ professional commitments were ramping up drastically at this time. In addition to TV work (the four subsequent NBC specials in the early ‘80s and the two seasons of CBS Saturday morning programs in the mid-‘80s), they were launching the First Time Book series.

You may be interested to know that the delivery schedule for these books was particularly challenging during the mid-1980s since their great success encouraged Random House to believe that a book club version of the series should be tried. This required a minimum number of titles be available to permit a standard fulfilment schedule. As a result, my parents worked intensely for about two years delivering new books on an accelerated schedule. This was complicated by the fact that my father was very ill during this period. He had difficult kidney stone operations during the 1960s which caused a chain-reaction of medical problems which lasted the rest of his life and actually led to his death in 2005.

If you look at the art of No Girls Allowed (1986) you may notice that the painting style is slightly looser and brushier than the other books of that period. Also, that the bears’ fur is a slightly more golden color, while in other books it is slightly reddish-brown. This is because my father was in the hospital when this book was completed and my mother did all the color. She had a looser style and preferred lighter, brighter colors.

At this period their division of labor was:

1.  Story concept developed together.

2.  Full manuscript draft written by Stan.

3.  Rewrite by both.

4.  Rough sketch version by Stan.

5.  Finished pencil sketch version by Jan.

6.  Tracing in pencil onto illustration board by Jan.

7.  Line-inking over pencil tracing primarily by Stan with Jan assisting at times.

8.  Gray cross-hatching by Stan (my mother did not like cross-hatching and never did it. You’ll note that in books she illustrated by herself after my father’s death, no cross-hatching appears. Books created after his death with cross-hatching are ones I worked on—I like cross-hatching.)

9.  Color (Dr. Martin’s Transparent Watercolor) by Stan.

Since my father was in the hospital when No Girls Allowed was due, my mother did the color. She was just as good at watercolor as my father but her style was a little flashier (my mother was the most naturally talented of us). After he got out of the hospital, they resumed their normal work pattern. The purpose of this division of labor was to permit them to work on two or three books at once each working on different stages.

Ironically, when the book club version of the series was brought out by Grollier, it did not succeed. By this time, the retail sales of the series were so enormous that there wasn’t an adequate market for a club—everyone already had the regular editions.

I began working with them in the late 1980s, at first on the Good Housekeeping cartoons. I was also doing my own books with Western/Golden at this time. Gradually, the demands of the Bears got so intense that I dropped my own books, we dropped the magazine cartoons, and we all focused exclusively on the Bears.

About this time, the relationship with Random House began to show cracks. My parents felt they were being shut out of new publishing opportunities—of trying new kinds of subjects and formats—and were being channeled almost exclusively into the First Time Book format. As a result, we began in the early ‘90s to publish with Western/Golden, Scholastic and mass-marketer, GoodTimes (distributor of the VHS tapes of the NBC shows), in parallel with Random House. The book versions of the four later NBC specials were part of a group of books published with Scholastic in the mid ‘90s.

The fractures with Random House finally led to a split which occurred during the 2003-2005 period and a move to HarperCollins. This was closely linked to the debut of the PBS show. Random House declined to commit to an expanded publishing program to coincide with the launch of the show. This was the result of a huge financial commitment to Disney which restricted their ability to expand other publishing programs. My father explored interest at HarperCollins in a broader Berenstain Bears program which resulted in the final move, there, in 2005.

Episode 29 – The Berenstain Bears Meet Bigpaw

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Gobble Gobble! It’s Thanksgiving and we’ve got a JUMBO episode! Welcome back Bradley Mariska and Jeremy Gloff – our B. Bear collectors – as we discuss “The Berenstain Bears Meet Bigpaw.” We cover, not only the original special, but also the adaptations that followed.

Take a look at some of the Bigpaw collectibles from Bradley’s collection:

How old is Bigpaw? Where does he come from? Since when is Mama a witch? Is “One Tin Soldier” a good song?

We answer none of these questions! Enjoy!

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Episode 28 – The Berenstain Bears and the Messy Room

DIBC-EP28This is the book where Mama LOSES. HER. Stuff. Her stuff. She straight up loses it and yells at the cubs and we couldn’t be happier. Oh, and Mitzi is joining me again. We’re getting ready for vacation, so this one is short!

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Episode 22 – Collector’s Corner 1

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This is so cool. I have on the show this week Bradley Mariska and Jeremy Gloff. Bradley and Jeremy have the two largest collections of Berenstain Bear merch IN THE WORLD. THE WORLD! Join me as these guys share three of their favorite B. Bear pieces. And, don’t fret that this is the last time these guys will be on, because this is not the last time these guys will be on.

Hey, do you want to see some images from the books?! Take a looks!

Bet you never thought oregano had a scratch-n-sniff, eh? Trade you for your Root Beer sticker.
See that circle thing there? That's a tiny record! And you play it with a hand-held spinning record player! THE FUTURE!
See that circle thing there? That’s a tiny record! And you play it with a hand-held spinning record player! THE FUTURE!
On top: The original line edition that your kid brother probably tried to color. On bottom: the later full color version.
On top: The original line edition that your kid brother probably tried to color.
On bottom: the later full color version.
All the goodness. See that thing in the middle? HAND-HELD RECORD PLAYER! See that original edition Papa's Pizza that Bradley took out of the wrapping just for our show? Price - halved.
All the goodness. See that thing in the middle? HAND-HELD RECORD PLAYER! See that original edition Papa’s Pizza that Bradley took out of the wrapping just for our show? Price – halved.

If you’re interested in joining the Berenstain Bears Collectors Facebook Group, just click through to the page! Internet magic! Also, Jeremy is a musician, so go like his Facebook page; he makes good music! Bradley is a musician as well, but I don’t see . . . I can’t find any kind of fan page for him or anything. I *did* find someone named “Mariska Bradley” though, so . . . so, that’s weird.

And, hey, if you dug this episode, let me know! You can find our official Facebook page on . . . on Facebook. Or, you can yell at me on Twitter. And, please please please rate and review the show on iTunes. It super helps get the word out there! Mwah! Love you all!

Episode 21 – The Berenstain Bears Go To the Doctor

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I have so many cool friends! Today, I’m joined by Dr. Steve Lawler to talk about the time brother and sister had their privacy violated by Dr. Grizzly. Seriously, at least let them put on some pants, Gert. We also talk about what that thing on Dr. Grizzly’s head is all about, the lack on non-bears in Bear Country and I FINALLY get a real diagnosis on Papa Bear’s sneezes! It’s fun!

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Episode 20 – The Berenstain Bears and the Sitter

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Meet my friend, Linda! She basically made my four-year-old the awesome person she is and I am thrilled to discuss this book with her today!

Episode 19 – The Berenstain Bears’ Christmas Tree

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In which we discover the true meaning of Christmas. Or, at least I do. Enjoy!

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Episode 18 – The Berenstain Bears and the Missing Dinosaur Bone

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Bear Country has a prehistory! We don’t actually learn much about it, but here it is! Dinosaurs! And, here’s the Bear Country museum and its curator Actual Factu – wait. Is that Actual Factual? It . . . it looks like him, but – Okay, we need to take this thing apart. It’s “The Berenstain Bears and the Missing Dinosaur Bone” and it’s a MYSTERY! All of it. Cover to cover. And I get SO ANGRY! Join me, won’t you?

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Episode 17 – The Berenstain Bears’ Counting Book/The Berenstain Bears and The Spooky Old Tree

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This week, we explore the hidden depths of what may be the spoooookiest book we’ve covered so far! And, no, it’s NOT “The Spooky Old Tree!” Brother’s fractured subconscious wars within itself and drags its fragments deep below its own comfort zone in these two deceptively simple books. Enjoy!

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Episode 16 – The Berenstain Bears’ Nature Guide/Science Fair

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Bear Country LOVES science! And, so do I! Join me as I explore the final two books in the rough trilogy started in “The Bears’ Almanac.” These books . . . man, they’re just great. I love ’em. Love, love, love ’em.

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Episode 15 – The Berenstain Bears Go To School

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We’re skipping ahead a bit to bring you a BACK TO SCHOOL SPECIAL! That’s right, it’s Sister Bear’s first year of school and to celebrate we have a real live school teacher in the studio with us! We’ll be talking about the verisimilitude of Sister’s Kindergarten classroom, Ms. Honeybear’s approach to meeting children, whether or not this book is a good primer for youngsters and, most importantly, that barrel of clay. Why would you store clay . . . in a barrel?

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Episode 14 – He Bear, She Bear/The Bear Detectives

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We’re back into the strange world of Small/Brother Bear’s psyche! Where will his concerns bout this new sister take him? And, are the Detectives real or all in our heads?

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Episode 13 – The Berenstain Bears’ New Baby

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Please welcome into the Deep In Bear Country Studios (the living room) our first ADULT guest, Elana Gravitz! Elana and I have a great time discussing The Berenstain Bears’ New Baby and covering such topics as: drinking straight from the family honey pot, not telling your kid their new sibling is arriving that day, the Bears’ strange and sudden isolation from the rest of Bear Country and the New Sibling/New Bed exchange rate. Also, Sister is pretty strong for a newborn.

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Episode 12 – The Berenstain Bears in ‘The Bears’ Almanac’

Man, I just relistened to this episode and I sound reallllllly mellow. Like, really mellow. Anyway, give it a listen! We’re closing out the end of Deep In Bear Country Phase 1 and entering Phase 2! What does that even mean? Well, it means .  . big things. Big things in store. For . . . you. So, buckle up, sonny jim. It’s going to be a bumpy ride. Except, not in this episode. This episode is mellow. And, so smooth.

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Episode 11 – The Berenstain Bears’ Nursery Tales

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We are rapidly approaching Zero Hour, my friends. Small, Papa and to a lesser extent Mama have brought us so far on this journey and now they are preparing to *expand* their universe with . . . *expand* was a joke, see? Like, Mama Bear is expanding across the midsection because of having a baby in- forget it! Forget it! I’m bad at jokes!

Anyway, in this book, we get Papa prepping Small for an addition to the family by way of some artful storytelling of stories we all already know. But, man does Small look enthralled there on the cover. No shock, really. He’s having his little mind blown.

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Episode 10 – Bears in the Night/C is for Clown/The Berenstain’s ‘C’ Book

DIBC-EP10We’re still in Dreamland. I know! It feels like we’ve been here forever. Well, trust me when I say this is all leading some place. And, this episode, I think we all get a good idea where that place is. “Bears in the Night” and “C is for Clown” may not seem to be tied into the main storyline, but they are. Oh, yes yes yes they most certainly are.

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Episode 9 – Old Hat, New Hat/The Berenstain’s B Book

DIBC-EP9We’re back for another trip through Small Bear’s Dreamland! And, by “we” I mean “we!” That’s right! Deep In Bear Country welcomes its very first guest! And, she’s young! Very. And, this is dropping on my birthday, so . . . happy birthday to me!

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Episode 8 – The Bears’ Christmas

It’s our first holiday book! And . . . the holiday isn’t really that important a part of it. Okay, it’s barely a part of it at all. Still, it’s a landmark so I’ll take it!

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Episode 7 – Inside Outside Upside Down/Bears On Wheels

Deep In Bear Country - Episode 7It’s a double header! Is that the right term? Who knows?! We are covering the first two Bright and Early Books in the Berenstain’s oeuvre and also learning a little bit of publishing history along the way. PLUS things get weird. Really weird. How weird? How about parallel universe weird? How does that make you feel?

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Episode 6 – The Bears’ Vacation

Episode 6 - The Bears' VacationStop everything! Bear Country has a beach?! Apparently so, and The Bear Family is set to have a great time beachin’ on vaca! At least, Papa and Small Bear are; Mama . . . she takes a backseat for this one. Still, this book has it all: sand, water, rocks, and a challenge to the Old Gods. Don’t miss it!

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Episode 5 – The Bear Scouts

DIBC-EP5What happens when Stan and Jan throw three new cubs into the Papa Bear/Small Bear mix? Turns out . . . they don’t end up playing a huge role in the story. Or, making much of a difference. Still, three new cubs! Do they get names? Do they speak lines? Do they evolve into Cousin Freddy? No. No. And, I don’t know. Haven’t gotten there yet. Still. Three new cubs!

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Episode 4 – The Bears’ Picnic

Episode 4 - The Bears' PicnicDo you like turning points? I do! And “The Bears’ Picnic” – darn that apostrophe; trips me up every time – is a major turning point for not only the Bear Family but for Stan and Jan Berenstain as artists, writers and collaborators. We’ll get into that in this episode as well as new locations in Bear Country!

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BONUS EPISODE 1 – Nothing Ever Happens at the South Pole

DIBC-BONUS1It’s a bonus episode! Holy cats! What brought this on? I wanted to cover “Nothing Ever Happens at the South Pole” before I lost my enthusiasm for it. It’s a clunky, weird, kinda terrible book BUT it’s super important in the history of the development of Stan and Jan Berenstain as writers. Super important. So, I’m not covering it just to knock it, but to examine it within the context of the Berenstains’ career.

Looking back, I think I got a couple of dates wrong in my retelling of the story of this book’s inception. If you can find it in your hearts to whistle past that . . . do so?

I’ll be back in a few days – fingers crossed – with “The Bear’s Picnic” which is AWESOME and I’m very excited about singing its praises!

Episode 3 – The Berenstain Bears and the Bike Lesson!

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Episode 3 – The Bike Lesson

Well, this is exciting! The first NAMED Berenstain Bears book! By which I mean, of course, that it’s the first book which identifies the Bear Family as “The Berensatin Bears.” Much like “The Addams Family” referred to “the family created by Charles Addams.” This all came as a surprise to Stan and Jan Berenstain. Which reminds me! It’s also the first book that refers to them as “Stan and Jan Berenstain” rather than as “Stanley and Janice.” And, isn’t that nice?

So, woo-hoo for this. Be sure to stay tuned for more episodes coming soon. I’ve got a few treats up my sleeves. Also, pop by Twitter and follow us! And, rate and review us on iTunes! It’d be really cool of you to do! Thanks!

Episode 2 – The Berenstain Bears and The Big Honey Hunt!

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Finally! An actual book!

“The Big Honey Hunt” marks the introduction of the Bear Family – Papa, Mama and . . . Small. Notice how many ideas that would carry over into later books are already in place: the tree house, the outfits, the attitudes of the bears. This was due to Dr. Seuss’s very exacting editorial hand. He insisted that Stan and Jan build these characters from the ground up; that the Bears exist as fully realized characters before the Berenstains begin writing about them. And, it shows. The Bears arrive fully realized as characters. Not, of course, as the characters they would eventually grow into, but as characters in their own right.

Now, there is a strong Seussian influence on these early books. Specifically, the ramping up of craziness and the physical comedy perpetrated by Papa Bear. This intentional “zaniness” will lighten over the course of the early books, but never fully leave until we get into books for younger children. For now, it’s all zaniness, all the time.

Deep In Bear Country: Episode 1 – An Introduction!

Episode 1: An Introduction!

Hello! And welcome to the first episode of “Deep In Bear Country: A Berenstain Bearcast.” In this episode, I take you through the whole reason this thing even exists. I give you a little rundown of the history of authors Stan and Jan Berenstain and hopefully prepare you for the long LONG journey to come.

All of the biographical information in the episode comes from “Down A Sunny Dirt Road – An Autobiography” by Stan and Jan Berenstain. It’s an invaluable source of information and I’ll be covering it specifically in a later episode.